Last updated: June 10, 2010

 

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Arms of Alexander Seton-Gordon

  ID Loci 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12   13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25   26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36

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  38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47   48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67
 

 

HIGHLAND BRANCH: Descendants of Adam de Gordoun through

Elizabeth GORDON & Alexander SETON (married 1408)

Progenitors of the following lines:

Abergeldie, Ardlogie, Auchdregny, Auchindown, Backies, Belornie, Birkhall, Birsemoir, Bonty/Bonte/Buntie, Chappelton, Cluny, Coffurach, Corridoun, Cotton, Craibstone, Cromellat, Croughly, Delmore, Drummoy, Dukes of Richmond, Dunkinty, Earl of Aboyne, Earls of Sutherland, Gartay, Gight, Golspitur, Gordonstoun, Grandhom, Haffield, Letterfurie, Lord Byron, Marquis of Huntly, Myrieton, Orkney, Pittendreich, Ruthven, Sidderay, Tombae, Wardhouse

 

Robert Gordon b. 1773 - d. 1854 NC>KY>TN>MO

   GG2 R1b1b 13 24 14 11 11 15 12 12 12 13 13 29   18 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 15 15 16   11  11  19  23  15  15  19  17 36  38 13 12                                                                
40174 R1b1b 13 24 14 11 11 15 12 12 12 13 13 29   18 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 15 16 16   11  11  19  23  15  15  19  17 36  38 13 12  
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62423 R1b1b 13 24 14 11 11 15 12 12 12 13 13 29   18 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 15 16 16   11  11  19  23  15  15  20 17 36  39 13 12                                                                
6770 R1b1b 13 24 14 11 11 15 12 12 12 13 13 29   18 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 15 16 16   11  11  19  23  15  15  19  17 36  38 13 12                                                                
 
David Gordon Family GG99 b. 1770 NC>KY>MO
  58440 R1b1b 13 24 14 10 11 15 12 12 11 13 13 29   18 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 15 16 16   11  11  19  23  15  15  19  17 36  38 13 12                                                                
 

Robert Gordon GG290 b. abt 1752 md. 1772 Montgomery Township PA

   172482   13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29   16 9 10 11 11 24 15 19 28 15 15 15 17  
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William G. Gordon  b. 1884 Oran, Scott Co MO
  9310 R1b1b2 13 24 14 11 11 15 12 12 12 13 13 29   18 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 15 16 16   11  10  19  23  15  15  19  17 36  38 13 12  
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  Gordon Family GG135 >Wilmington, New Hanover County, NC 84517 R1b1b2 13 24 14 11 11 15 12 12 13 13 13 29   18 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 15 16 16  
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David Gordon, born 1750 in Stracathro, Brechin, Forfar, SCT>Glasgow SCT>Connecticut>MA GG100
   60208 R1b1b2 13 25 14 11 11 14 12 12 13 13 13 29   16 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 28 15 15 16 17   11  11  19  23  16  15  19  17 37  39 12 12  
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  Gordon Family GG148 >CO 92297 R1b1b 13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29   18 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 30  15 15 16 17   11  11  19  23  15  15  17  18 35  39 12 12  
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  Swinton >Canada N15303 R1b1b2 13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 14 14 30   17 9 10 11 11 27 15 18 30  15 15 17 17   11  11  19  23  16  15  17  18 38 41 11 12  
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William Gordon b. 1663 Croughly, Banff, Scotland
  35045 R1b1 13 24 14 11 11 15 12 12 12 13 13 29   16 9 10 11 11 25 14 19 28 15 16 16 17   10  11  19  23  17  14  17  18 37  39 14 11  
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  Gordon Family GG291>Scotland>Georgia State N82860 / 173025
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Gordon Family GG78 PA>OH

   46494 R1b1b2 13 24 14 11 11 15 12 12 13 13 13 29   17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 15 16 17   11  11  19  23  16  15  18  17 36  37 11 12                                                                
 
Alexander Gordon b. 1785 NC>GA
   27083 R1b1b2
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Capt. of Spies - John Gordon Family GG123 b. abt 1759 VA>TN
 70366 R1b1b2 13 24 15 11 12 14 12 12 11 13 13 28   17 9 10 11 11 25 15 17 29 15 15 16 17 11  11  19  23  16  16  19  17 36  38 12 12  
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  Gordon Family GG220 22233 R1b1b2 13 24 15 11 12 14 12 12 11 13 13 28   17 9 9 11 11 25 15 17 29 15 15 17 18   11  11  19  23  16  16  18  17 37  38 12 12  
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  Gordon Family GG157 >New York 94724 R1b1b2 13 24 15 11 12 14 12 12 11 13 13 28                                                                                                                      
       
 
David Gordon Family, b. 1839, Ballyeaston  Antrim  Northern IrelandGG255>Scotland > Northern Ireland>UK
   155174 R1b1b2 13 23 14 11 11 14 12 12 11 13 13 29  
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Thomas b. 1814 DEL. Father was b. DEL also DEL>PA
  8058 R1b1b2 13 23 14 11 11 14 12 12 11 13 13 29   17  9 10 11 11 24 15 19 29 15 15 17 17   10  11  19  23  15  15  17  17 38  39 12 12                                                                
  Juan Pedro de Gordon Family (b. abt. 1834) GG299>"la Pola de Gordon," Northern Spain>Saint Sernin, France 177733 R1b1b2
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  Gordon Family GG165 >North Ireland>New Zealand 96537 R1b1b2 13 23 14 11 11 14 12 12 11 13 13 29   17  9 10 11 11 24 15 19 29 15 15 17 17   10  11  19  23  15  15  17  17 38  39 12 12                                                                
  Gordon Family GG195 >NSW, Australia 120456 R1b1b2 13 23 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29   17  9 10 11 11 24 15 19 29 15 16 17 17   10  10  19  22  14  15  17  17 38  38 12 12                                                                
 
Thomas R. Gordon Family Aberdeen, SCT>Iowa GG85
  47361 R1b1b2 * 13 24 15 10 11 11 12 12 12 13 13 29   16 9 10 11 11 24 15 19 31 15 15 17 17                                                                                          
       
 
Gordon Family GG29 John F. Gordon b. 1814 (W)VA (W)VA>PA
  13047   R1b1b2 13 24 15 11 11 14 12 12 13 13 13 29   18 9 10 11 11 26 15 20 25 15 15 16 17   11 11 19 23 16 15 18 17 36 42 12 12                                                                
 
Earl Wright Gordon b. 1848 NY
  9173 R1b1b 13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29   18 9 10 11 11 23 15 19 32 15 16 16 17   11 10 19 23 17 15 18 17 38 39 12 12                                                                
 
 SETON/SEATON - clan
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DNA projects for the Seton/Seaton and Swinton/Winton clans have been established for comparison with the above Seton-Gordons.          
                                                                                          
 
(S)WINTON - clan
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The following 3 kits have a 40.51% probability of sharing a common ancestor with the above Seton-Gordons within the last 40-generations (approx. 1,000 years). They have a 67.21% probability of sharing a common ancestor with each other within the last 8 generations; 88.23% within 16 generations and 98.93% within the last 20 generations.

 
Charles Gordon b. c1680 Scotland SCT>NJ
  4742 R1b1b2 13 23 14 11 11 15 12 12 12 13 13 28   17 9  10  11  11  25  15  21  33  15  15  15  17   11  12 18  23  15  15  18  18  34  38  12  12                                                                
  Gordon Family GG140 >PA 87589 R1b1b 13 23 14 11 11 15 12 12 12 13 13 28   17 9  10  11  11  25  15  21  32  15  15  15  17   11  12 18  23  15  15  18  18  34  36  12  12                                                                
  John Gordon Family GG141 b. 1809 Annville, Lebanon, PA>AL 87603 R1b1b 13 23 14 11 11 15 12 12 12 13 13 28   17 9  10  11  11  25  15  21  32  15  15  15  17   11  12 18  23  15  15  18  18  34  36  12  12                                                                
  Gordon Family GG137 > FL 85709 R1a1* 13 23 14 11 11 15 12 12 12 13 13 28   17 9  10  11  11  25  15  21  32  15  15  15  17                                                                                          

Analysis:  Above Kits 14742, 87589, 87603 and 85709 appear to also match with the Middletons of Aberdeenshire. This could be a case of what is known as convergence, where markers for both families happened to change to the same value at each loci -or- could suggest they very recently shared a common ancestor. See: http://home.att.net/~jw.middleton/ In either scenario, it may be inferred that there was a high probability of a common ancestor between these Middletons and the Seton-Gordons within the last 48-generations (approx. 1,200 years).

     
The following 2 kits have a 33.82% probability of sharing a common ancestor with the Seton-Gordons within the last 40-generations (approx. 1,000 years)
 
Moir/Muir - sept
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Joseph b. ca 1790 IRE>Australia (GG70)
  41514 13 24 14 11 11 12 12 12 12 13 13 29   19 9 10 11 11 26 14 21 29 14 15 17 18   11  11  19  23  16  14  18   17 34  36 13 12                                                                
  Gordon Family GG261>New Zealand 160431 13 24 14 11 11 12 12 12 12 13 13 29   19 9 10 11 11 26 14 21 29 14 15 17 18  
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Charles Gordon GG98 - (Ireland>Canada)
   58199 13 24 14 11 11 12 12 12 12 13 13 29   18 9 10 11 11 26 14 21 29 14 15 17 18   11  11  19  23  16  15  18   17 34  36 13 12                                                                
 
Charles Gordon GG200 - (Australia)
   111517 13 24 14 11 11 12 12 12 12 13 13 29   19 10 10 11 11 25 14 21 29 14 15 17 18   11  11  19  23  16  15  18   17 34  36 13 12                                                                
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Analysis:  Kit #35045 is a proven descendant of William Gordon of Croughly, Banff, Scotland. William Gordon of Croughly was the third of four sons of Alexander Gordon, who in turn was the second son of the third Earl of Huntly. It was John Gordon, eldest brother of Alexander Gordon of Croughly, that became Master of Huntly and father of the fourth Earl of Huntly - progeneitor of the Gordon Clan Chiefs.   

The big surprise comes in comparing Kit Nos. 27083 and 13047, when comparing 37-marker results with Kit No. 40174. Looking at Kit 27083, we see a 41% probability of a shared common ancestor within the past 500 years and a 61% probability within the past 600 years. The results of Kit No. 27083 suggest a common ancestor but most likely closer to 1000 years ago. This is certainly an anomoly, given that we know this line descending from Elizabeth Gordon and Alexander Seton started about 1408 with their marriage. Is it possible that this line is over 1000 years old or are markers simply mutating characterstically fast in the Seton-Gordon branch?

This group has a father-son lineage back to Elizabeth Gordon and Alexander Seton. Alexander took the Gordon surname when he married Elizabeth in 1408. Gordon History as related in "Gordon Kinship", "The House of Gordon" and other early works tells us there was a break in the male succession after the death of Adam Gordon in 1402 at battle of Homildon Hill. Adam had as heir only a daughter, Elizabeth. Elizabeth successfully challenged the old custom of only males being allowed to inherit. She was helped by the question of the legitimacy of the nearest male heirs, John "Jock" and Thomas "Thom" or "Tam." They were the product of a handfasting marriage which was beginning to be questioned both by law and the church. Elizabeth wasted no time in enforcing her claim, marrying Alexander Seton. He was of Gordon blood, but not the Gordon name. Thereafter, he agreed his Gordon heirs would take the Gordon name. Test kit #35045 is a proven direct descendant of Elizabeth's line. So, you would think that the DNA of this Gordon line should match the DNA of the Seton families. Unfortunately, as you would expect, it is not so simple.

The Caveat: There is the "Swinton Theory." This theory states that the original Gordon progeneitor was Ernald (or Hernwulf) who had 3 sons, Cospatrick de Swinton and the 2 Gordons, Richard and Adam de Gordoun. At some point the "S" may have been dropped from Swinton and the theory is that the Wintons and Gordons actually shared the same paternal ancestor. It is mentioned in various works that Elizabeth went back to the Borders to marry a husband also of "Gordon blood," which was Alexander Seton, second son of William Seton of Winton. The implication is that the Seton-Gordons should match DNA with the Wintons, whom had assumed the Seton surname through marriage. Yet if the Wintons and Gordons had the same common ancestor, then they would share the same Y-DNA, if it is established that the Wintons held a father-son bloodline back to Ernald.

Historically, it is the descent from Elizabeth and her Seton husband that the Huntly line was able to continue into the Ducal Gordons. However, genealogically-speaking it is the Sir William Gordon line and the Jock and Tam Gordons that maintained seniority. See Sir William Gordon and Jock and Tam groupings below for further information.

Conclusion: Further Seton-Gordon DNA is needed from to compare these Gordons with DNA from the (S)winton and Seton families, as well as with the various Houses of Gordon branches to establish timeframes for branching from the main Gordon-Seton line.

 

For more information on this family and the Seton-Gordons, visit: www.GordonQuest.com and www.thesetonfamily.com and www.swintonfamilysociety.org

  
   

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