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**Only Kit Numbers and earliest ancestors are given to protect privacy of our testers.

   

 

 

DYS

3

9

3

3

9

0

 

1

9

3

9

1

3

8

5

a

3

8

5

b

4

2

6

3

8

8

4

3

9

3

8

9

1

3

9

2

3

8

9

2

  4

5

8

4

5

9

a

4

5

9

b

4

5

5

 

4

5

4

4

4

7

4

3

7

4

4

8

4

4

9

4

6

4

a

4

6

4

b

4

6

4

c

 

 

 

4

6

4

d

4

6

4

e

4

6

0

G

A

T

A

H

4

Y

C

A

I

I

a

Y

C

A

I

I

b

4

5

6

6

0

7

5

7

6

5

7

0

C

D

Y

a

C

D

Y

b

4

4

2

 

4

3

8

 

5

3

1

5

7

8

3

9

5

S

1

a

3

9

5

S

1

b

5

9

0

5

3

7

6

4

1

4

7

2

4

0

6

S

1

 

5

1

1

 

4

2

5

4

1

3

a

4

1

3

b

5

5

7

5

9

4

4

3

6

4

9

0

5

3

4

4

5

0

4

4

4

4

8

1

5

2

0

4

4

6

6

1

7

5

6

8

4

8

7

5

7

2

6

4

0

4

9

2

5

6

5

710
485
632
495
540
714
716
717
 
505
556
549
589
522
494
533
636
575
638
 
86
87
88
89
90
91
92
93
 
712
593
650
532
715
504
513
561
552
  11               11
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
   

 

 

Descendants of the

Stewart-Gordons

      Haplogroup I 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12   13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25   26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36

37

  38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47   48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75   76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 85 84   86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93   94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102   103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111
 

Samuel b. abt. 1730Scotland 

45353 15 24 15 10 15 16 11 13 11 13 12 29 16 8 9 11 11 26 15 20 27 11 11 14 16 11 10 19 21 15 14 19 18 31 37 12 10                                                                                                

6679 23202

15 24 15 11 15 16 11 13 11 13 12 29 16 8 9 11 11 26 15 20 27 11 11 14 16  11 10  19  21 15 14 19  18  31  37   12 10 
11
8
15
16
8
11
10
8
11
9
0
19
21
16
11
12
12
18
9
14
25
20
10
13
11
13
11
11
12
11
                                                                                               
23215 15 24 15 11 15 16 11 13 11 13 12 29 16 8 9 11 11 26 15 20 27 11 11 14 16  11 10  19   21 15  14 19  18  31  37   12 10                                                                                                 
39896 15 24 15 11 15 16 11 13 11 13 12 29 16 8 9 11 11 26 15 20 27 11 11 14 16  11 10  19   21 15  14 19  18  31  37   12 10                                                                                                 
15 24 15 11 15 16 11 13 11 13 12 29 17 8 9 11 11 26 15 20 27 11 11 14 16  11 10  19   21 15  14 19  18  31  37   12 10                                                                                                 
  Gordon Family GG171 >Alberta, Canada   97675 15 24 15 11 15 16 11 13 11 13 12 29 16 8 9 11 11 26 15 20 27 11 11 14 16    11 10  19   21 15  14 19  18  31  37   12 10                                                                                                                                                                 
  Gordon Family GG395>Alabama   224154 15 24 15 11 15 16 11 13 11 12 12 28   16 8 9 11 11 26 15 20 27 11 11 14 16   11 10 19 21 15 14 19 18 31 37 12 10   11 8 15 16 8 11 10 8 11 9  
0
19
21
16
11
12
12
18
9
14
25
20
10
13
11
13
11
11
12
11
                                                                                               
 
Gordon Family b. Africa>California
N34227 15 24 15 11 15 16 11 13 11 13 12 29   16 8 9 11 11 26 15 20 28 11 11 14 15   11 10 19 21 14 14 20 18 32 37   12 10                                                                                                                           
 
  STEWART/STUART-clan
Kit 5830 15 24 15 12 15 16 11 13 11 14 12 30 16 8 9 11 11 26 15 20 27 11 11 14 16  11 10  19   21 14  14 19  18  31  37   12 10                                                                                                 

 

Descendants of the

Fitzgerald-Gordons

 

      Haplogroup R1b 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12   13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25   26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36

37

  38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47   48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75   76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 85 84   86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93   94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102   103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111
 
Wright Gordonb. 1822 SC>GA
6539 13 21 14 11 11 14 12 12 13 13 13 29 17 9 9 11 11 25 15 19 30 15 15 16 17                                                                                                                        
29130 13 21 14 11 11 14 12 12 13 13 13 29                                                                                                                                                  
 
Harvey Gordon b. 1842 SC m. Sarah Fitzgerald Pulaski Co. GA
26395 HG I 13 22 14 10 13 14 11 14 11 12 11 28                                                                                                                                                  
 
James Lacey b. 1800 Williamsburg SC 
Kit 36812 HG I 15 23 15 10 14 15 11 13 11 14 12 31 15 8 10 11 11 25 14 20 25 11 14 14 15 11 10 19 21 15 14 17 19 33 41 12 10                                                                                                
 

 

Analysis:  Wright and Harvey Gordon were raised as brothers, sons of James Harvey Gordon and Elizabeth Lacey Gordon.  As the DNA shows, Wright and Harvey have 2 different fathers.  We had suspected a second marriage because of the 20 year difference in their ages, but not considered the possibility that Wright may have had a different father.   Harvey is certainly of the Gordon lineage, as he is matching our big group of matching testers. 

When we got the differing results back, our first question was who is the break in the line?  It boiled down to only a couple of possibilities.  One was Wright himself, the other was a grandfather who had a sister old enough to be his mother who could have let her parents raise the child.  Believing that when in doubt, you go with the oldest connection, one descendant contacted a cousin who descended from a different son of Wright and Rosa Gordon.   Since the cousin is matching results, it means that Wright is the broken link.  If he had not matched the original tester, then contacting a cousin descending from one one of their grandfather's brothers would be needed to test for a match.  If he matched, it would mean that the great grandfather was the broken link.  If he matched Harvey, it would mean that the grandfather was the broken link.  

James Harvey Gordon married Elizabeth Lacey. Descendants decided to check the Lacey DNA to see if Elizabeth was married to a Lacey and had a different maiden name.  As you can see, that is not the case either.  At least they know that is the wrong path, so descendants won't waste time on that theory. 

 

 

Small groups of Newly Discovered Gordon Branches

 

      Haplogroup R1b 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12   13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25   26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36

37

  38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47   48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75   76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85   86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93   94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102   103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111
  Peter Gordon b.1758 - d.1845 PA Gordon Family GG318, GG102, GG361 186902
13
23
14
11
11
15
12
12
12
13
13
30
 
17
9
10
11
11
25
15
19
29
15
15
17
17
 
11
11
18
22
15
14
18
17
39
39
12
12
 
11
9
15
16
8
10
10
8
10
10
 
12
23
23
16
10
12
12
15
8
12
22
20
13
12
11
13
11
11
13
12
                                                                                               
  61514 13 23 14 11 11 15 12 12 12 13 13 30 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 15 17 17 11 11 18 22 15 14 18 17 39 40 12 12
11
9
15
16
8
10
10
8
10
10
12
23
23
16
10
12
12
15
8
12
22
20
13
12
11
13
11
11
13
12
36 15 9 16 12 25 26 19   12 11 13 12 10 9 12 12 10 11   11 31 12 12 24 12 10 10   20 15 18 16 22 17 12 14 24   12 25 18 11 14 17 9 12 11
    B1195
13
23
14
11
11
15
12
12
12
13
13
30
 
17
9
10
11
11
25
15
19
29
15
15
17
17
 
11
11
18
22
15
14
18
17
39
40
12
12
 
11
9
15
16
8
10
10
8
10
10
 
12
23
23
16
10
12
12
15
8
12
22
20
13
12
11
13
11
11
13
13
36 15 9 16 12 25 26 19   12 11 13 12 10 9 12 12 10 11   11 31 12 12 24 12 10 10   20 15 18 16 22 17 12 14 24   12 25 18 11 14 17 9 12 11
  Gordon Family GG271>Arkansas 162584
13
24
14
11
11
14
12
12
12
13
13
29
 
18
9
10
11
11
24
15
19
30
14
15
17
17
 
11
11
19
23
16
15
18
17
37
38
12
12
 
11
9
15
16
8
10
10
8
10
10
 
12
23
23
16
10
12
12
15
8
12
23
20
13
12
11
13
10
11
11
12
                                                                                               
  Gordon Family GG153 >CA 93250 13 24 14 10 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29   17 9 9 11 11 25 14 18 29 15 17 17 17 11 10 19 23 16 15 18 16 36 36 12 12                                                                                                                                                                
 
Albert Raye Gordon b. 1895 VA
13921 13 24 14 10 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 30 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 16 17 17  
11
11
19
23
16
16
18
15
36
37
12
12
11
10
15
16
8
10
10
8
11
10
12
23
23
17
10
12
12
17
8
12
22
18
13
12
11
13
11
11
12
12
                                                                                               
 
Thomas b. 1814 DEL. Father was b. DEL also DEL>PA
8058 13 23 14 11 11 14 12 12 11 13 13 29 17  9 10 11 11 24 15 19 29 15 15 17 17                                                                                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     
 
Gordon Family GG116 >TN
73440 13 23 14 10 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29 17 9 10 11 11 24 15 19 31 15 15 16 17                                                                                                                                                                                          
  Gordon Family GG175 >Dundee, Scotland via Aberdeenshire>Australia 105253 13 23 14 10 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29   16 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 15 16 17   11 11 19 23 15 15 18 17 37 38 12 12   11 9 15 15 8 10 10 8 10 10   12 23 23 16 10 12 12 15 8 12 22 20 13 12 11 13 11 11 13 12                                                                                                
  Gordon Family GG293>Texas 174524
13
23
14
10
11
14
12
12
12
13
13
29
 
17
9
10
11
11
25
15
19
31
15
15
16
17
 
11
11
19
23
16
15
17
16
37
37
12
12
 
11
9
15
16
8
10
10
8
10
10
 
0
23
23
17
10
12
12
15
8
12
22
20
12
12
11
13
10
11
13
12
                                                                                               
  Gordon Family GG370 VA>Texas   214283
13
23
14
10
11
14
12
12
12
13
13
29
 
17
9
10
11
11
25
15
19
31
15
15
16
17
 
11
11
19
23
16
15
17
16
37
37
13
12
  11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 10  
0
23
23
17
10
12
12
15
8
12
22
20
12
12
11
14
10
11
13
12
34 15 9 16 12 27 26 19   12 11 13 12 10 9 12 11 10 11   11 30 12 13 23 13 10 10   22 15 19 13 24 16 12 15 24   12 23 18 9 14 17 9 12 11
  Benjamin Franklin 1854-1937 OK (GG1)   3085 13 23 14 10 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 31 15 15 16 17  
11
10
19
23
16
15
17
16
37
38
12
12
 
11
9
15
16
8
10
10
8
10
10
                                                                                                   
    18591 13 23 14 10 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29                                                                                                                                                                                                                      
  Gordon Family GG420>Oklahoma   236028 13 23 14 10 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 31 15 15 16 17  
11
11
19
23
16
15
17
16
36
37
12
12
                                                                                                                                                               
  Gordon Family GG652>  

390684

13 23 14 10 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 31 15 15 16 17  
11
11
19
23
16
15
17
16
37
37
12
12
 
11
9
15
16
8
10
10
8
10
10
 
0
23
23
16
10
12
12
15
8
12
22
20
12
12 11 13 10 11 13 12 34 15 9 16 12 27 26 19   12 11 13 12 10 9 12 11 10 11   11 31 12 12 24 12 10 10   22 15 19 13 24 16 12 15 25   12 23 18 9 14 17 9 12 11
  Gordon Family GG193 >Hawaii 119856 13 24 14 9 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29                                                                                                                                                                
 
  Haplogroup R1b 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12   13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25   26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36

37

  38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47   48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75   76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 85 84   86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93   94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102   103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111

 

Analysis:  Kits (GG1) and 18591 have their family line has remained true back to Benjamin Franklin Gordon.  Our ancestors had many life changing experiences just like we do today.  Adoptions, divorce, unwed births, and name changes, (legal and illegal) were common among our early families as well.  In this case, since they already expected the match, the 12 marker testing is sufficient to prove the results are a good representative of Benjamin's line of descent.  

Kit #19380 looks like he has a possibility of a match to this family.  Since the only difference is on a red allelle, known for rapidly changing, comparison with their own research may provide some clues to a connection.  Kit #19380 has traced her Gordons back to same area as the 2 family groups above (Samuel and Robert Gordon).  She has also tracked her family through OK, MO and TX.  One would assume from their proximity that they were looking at 1 family, but in fact, DNA testing reveals that there are 3 distinct Gordon families.

Interesting to note that kits 13921, 8058 and 61514 also share mutations on several of the same markers, indicating a possible sub-branch of this Gordon branch. For further analysis on kits 13921, 8058 and 61514, see below:

 

 
  Haplogroup R1b 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12   13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25   26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36

37

  38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47   48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75   76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 85 84   86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93   94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102   103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111
 
John Gordon Family GG82 b. abt 1776 SCT>UK
47286 13 24 15 11 11 15 12 12 12 13 13 29 17 9 10 11 11 24 15 19 29 15 15 16 17   11 10 19 23 16 15 19 17 37 37 12 13   11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 10 12 21 23 17 10 12 12 16 8 12 23 20 13 12 11 13 11 11 12 12 33 15 9 16 12 28 26 19   12 11 14 12 10 9 12 12 10 11   11 30 12 13 24 13 10 10   19 15 19 13 24 17 12 15 24   12 23 18 11 14 17 9 12 11
 
Nathaniel Gordon Family b. 1700 GG126 Ireland>MO
76178 13 24 15 11 11 15 12 12 12 13 13 30 17 9 10 11 11 24 15 19 29 15 15 16 17 11 10 19 23 16 15 19 17 37 38 12 13 11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 10 12 23 23 17 10 12 12 16 8 12 22 20 13 12 11 13 11 11 12 12                                    
  Gordon Family GG374>Canada   216066 13 24 15 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 30   17 9 10 11 11 24 15 19 29 15 15 16 17   11 10 19 23 16 15 19 17 37 38 12 13                                                                                                    
 
                                                                                                                                                                             

Analysis: These two kits share a very recent common Gordon ancestor. They may be distant cousins of the Seton -Gordons.

 
  Haplogroup 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12   13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25   26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36

37

  38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47   48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75   76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 85 84   86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93   94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102   103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111
  Gordon Family GG392>Michigan   217381 13 23 16 10 12 15 11 15 12 14 11 30   18 8 9 11 11 26 14 18 29 11 14 14 15   10 10 21 21 14 10 19 17 34 36 12 10                                                                                                                                                                
  Gordon Family GG166 >Virginia
**See also HUNTLEY Sept
96595 I2a3 13 23 16 10 12 15 11 15 12 14 11 30   18 8 9 11 11 26 14 18 29 11 14 14 15   10 10 21 21 14 10 19 17 34 37 12 10   11 8 16 17 8 11 10 8 12 10   12 21 21 17 10 12 12 16 8 14 27 20 12 12 11 14 10 12 13 13                                                                                                

 

Analysis: 

 

   
 
  Haplogroup 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12   13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25   26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36

37

  38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47   48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75   76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 85 84   86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93   94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102   103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111
  Gordon Family GG643>Wyoming   378299
R-DF105
13 25 14 11 11 13 12 12 12 13 14 29   17 9 10 11 11 25 15 18 31 15 15 15 17   11 11 19 23 18 16 18 17 37 39 12 12                                                                                                                                                                
  Gordon Family GG610>Virginia   360717
R-M222
13 25 14 11 11 13 12 12 12 13 14 29   17 9 10 11 11 25 15 18 31 15 16 16 17   11 11 19 23 17 16 18 17 39 39 12 12                                                                                                                                                                
      Haplogroup I 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12   13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25   26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36

37

  38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47   48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75   76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 85 84   86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93   94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102   103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111
  Gordon Family GG221>Florida 138027 13 22 15 10 13 14 11 14 11 13 11 30   15 8 9 8 11 23 16 20 28 12 14 15 16   11 10 19 21 14 14 17 19 34 38 12 10                                                                                                                                                                
 
Ephraim b. 1757 VA>GA>AL>FL
6662 13 22 15 10 13 14 11 14 11 13 11 30 15 8 9 8 11 23 16 20 28 12 15 15 16 11 10 19 21 14 14 17 19 34 39 12 10                                                                                                                                                                
 
Ephraim b. ca 1810 TN
32378 13 22 15 10 12 15 11 14 11 13 11 30 15 8 9 8 11 23 16 20 28 12 15 15 16
11
10
19
21
14
14
17
19
34
37
12
10
 
11
8
15
15
8
11
10
8
9
9
 
0
23
25
15
10
12
12
15
8
13
27
21
13
13
12
12
11
11
12
11                                                                                                
  Gordon Family GG258>Texas 158402
13
22
15
10
13
14
11
14
11
13
11
30
  15 8 9 8 11 23 16 20 28 12 15 15 16  
11
10
19
21
14
14
17
19
34
37
12
10
 
11
8
15
15
8
11
10
8
9
9
 
0
23
25
15
10
12
12
15
8
13
27
21
13
13
12
12
11
11
12
11
                                                                                               
  Gordon Family GG421>Oklahoma   234604
13
22
15
10
13
14
11
14
11
13
11
30
  15 8 9 8 11 23 16 20 28 12 15 15 16  
11
10
19
21
14
14
17
19
34
36
12
10
                                                                                                                                                               
  Gordon Family GG298>Texas 177017
13
22
15
10
13
14
11
14
11
13
11
30
  15 8 9 8 11 23 16 20 27 12 15 15 16  
11
10
19
21
14
14
17
19
34
37
12
10
 
11
8
15
15
8
11
10
8
9
9
 
0
23
25
15
10
12
12
15
8
13
26
21
13
13
12
12
11
11
12
11
                                                                                               
 
Gordon Family GG39  Abraham Gordon b. 1807 NC>SC>GA
17187 13 22 15 10 13 14 11 14 11 13 11 30 15 8 9 8 11 23 16 20 28 12 15 15 16
11
10
19
21
14
14
17
19
34
37
12
10
                                                                                               
 
William Gordon Family GG79 b. 1714 Sutherland, SCT>NC>TN
46758 13 22 15 10 13 14 11 14 11 13 11 30 15 8 9 8 11 23 16 20 28 12 15 15 16 11 10 19 21 14 14 16 19 34 38 12 10                                                                                                

 

Analysis:  These families are certainly related. The question is how closely and how exactly do these families fit together? The 2-step difference on 2-markers between Kit 32378 does not necessarily mean that this family is any further or closer than the others to their common ancestor. Since the red markers tend to mutate more quickly and we have seen red-marker mutations over consecutive generations. See chart below.

This is a perfect example of 12 marker testing being used to determine relationship of 2 families.  Since there is only 50 years between the birth of Ephraim, 1757 and Abraham, 1807, and E. doesn't appear to have been in NC or SC he is probably not the common ancestor of the 2 researchers.  However, their own research may give enough information to make a connection for the 2 families.

In comparing 25 markers, the probability that kits 32378 and 17187 shared a common ancestor within the last...
4 generations is

7.97%

8 generations is a

29.25%

12 generations is

52.42%

16 generations is

70.77%

20 generations is

83.15%

24 generations is

90.73%

 

 
  Haplogroup R1b 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12   13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25   26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36

37

  38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47   48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75   76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 85 84   86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93   94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102   103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111
  William John Gordon Family b. 1860 GG353>South Carolina>North Carolina   204176
13
23
14
10
11
13
12
13
12
13
13
30
 
17
8
10
11
11
25
15
19
29
15
15
16
18
 
11
11
19
23
16
15
17
18
37
38
12
12
 
11
9
15
16
8
10
10
8
10
10
 
12
23
23
16
10
12
12
16
8
13
22
20
13
12
11
13
11
11
13
12
36 15 9 16 13 25 26 19   12 11 13 12 10 9 12 12 10 11   11 30 12 13 24 13 10 11   20 16 19 13 24 18 12 15 24   12 23 18 10 14 15 9 12 11
  Gordon Family GG633>Pennsylvania   370668 13 23 14 10 11 13 12 12 12 13 13 29   17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 15 16 18   11 11 19 23 16 15 19 18 37 38 12 12   11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 10   12 23 23 16 10 12 12 16 8 13 23 20 13 12 11 13 11 11 13 12 36 15 9 16 13 25 26 19   12 11 13 12 10 9 12 12 10 11   11 30 12 13 24 13 10 11   20 15 19 13 23 18 12 15 24   12 23 18 10 14 15 9 12 11
  Gord(a)n Family GG300>Alabama 178044
13
23
14
10
11
13
12
12
12
13
13
29
 
18
9
10
11
11
25
15
19
29
15
15
16
18
 
11
11
19
23
16
15
20
18
38
38
12
12
 
11
9
15
16
8
10
10
8
10
10
 
12
23
23
16
10
12
12
16
8
13
23
20
13
12
11
13
11
11
13
12
                                                                                               
 
Gordon Family GG43 Howard Gordon b. 1789 VA>KY
19380 13 23 14 10 11 13 12 12 12 13 13 29 17 9 10 11 11 24 15 19 29 15 15 16 18 10 10 19 23 16 15 19 18 38 38 12 12                                                                                                                                                                
  Gordon Family GG399>Virginia   228905 13 23 14 10 11 13 12 12 12 13 13 29   17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 15 16 18   11 12 19 23 16 15 19 18 37 38 12 12                                                                                                                                                                
 
Gordon Family GG 101 Thomas Gordon b. 1749 PA
62548 13 23 14 10 11 13 12 12 12 13 13 29 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 28 15 15 16 18 11 11 19 23 16 15 19 18 37 38 12 12                                                                                                                                                                
  Gordon Family GG161 >Virginia 95985 13 23 14 10 11 13 12 12 12 13 13 29 17 8 9 11 11 26 15 19 29 15 15 16 18 11 11 19 23 16 15 19 18 37 38 12 12                                                                                                                                                                
 
George b. 1764 SCT>TX
8300 13 23 14 10 11 13 12 13 12 13 13 29
17
8
10
11
11
25
15
19
29
15
15
16
18
11
11
19
23
16
15
18
18
38
38
12
12
                                                                                                                                                               
  Gordon Family GG383>Florida   219619 13 23 14 10 11 13 12 13 12 13 13 29   17 8 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 15 16 18   10 11 19 23 16 15 18 18 37 37 12 12                                                                                                                                                                
  Gordon Family GG>OR   453739 13 23 14 10 11 13 12 13 12 13 13 29   17 8 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 15 16 18   11 11 19 23 16 15 18 18 36 37 12 12   11 9 15 16 8 11 10 8 10 10   12 23 23 16 10 12 12 16 8 13 22 20 13 12 11 13 11 11 13 12
  Gordon Family GG>CA   447167 13 23 14 10 11 13 12 13 12 13 13 29   17 8 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 15 16 18   11 11 19 23 16 15 18 18 36 37 12 12   11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 10   12 23 23 16 10 12 12 16 8 13 22 20 13 12 11 13 11 11 13 12                                                                                                

 

Analysis: 

 

 

 

Newly Discovered Gordon Branches

Also, descendants of Somerled - The Norse Scot foe of the Vikings

 
  Haplogroup R1a 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12   13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25   26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36

37

  38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47   48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75   76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 85 84   86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93   94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102   103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111
 
Gordon Family GG46  Hayden Gordon b. Eng. d. 1884 Boston MA
21128
13
25
15
11
11
14
12
12
10
14
11
31
15
8
10
11
11
23
14
21
30
12
14
15
16
11
12
19
21
17
16
17
18
33
38
12
11
11
8
17
17
8
11
10
8
11
11
12
22
22
15
11
12
12
13
8
14
23
21
13
12
10
13
11
11
12
12
                                                                                               
  Gordon Family - GG104 Fochabar, Scotland >New Zealand>Hong Kong   N27621 13 24 15 10 11 14 12 12 10 14 11 31
15
8
10
11
11
23
14
20
32
12
15
15
16
12 
12 
19 
21 
17 
16 
16 
18 
34
40 
12 
11 
11 8 17 17 8 12 10 8 11 10   12 22 22 15 11 12 12 14 8 13 23 21 12 12 11 13 11 11 12 12 30 15 9 15 12 25 27 19   12 12 12 11 10 9 12 11 10 11   11 31 12 13 24 13 9 11   19 15 19 11 23 14 12 15 25   12 23 19 10 15 17 9 11 11
 
Albert R. Gordon 
10441
13
25
15
11
11
14
12
12
10
14
12
31
15
9
10
11
11
23
14
20
31
12
15
15
16
10 
12 
19 
21 
16 
16 
17 
18 
 34
38 
12 
11 
11
8
17
17
8
11
10
8
11
10
12
22
23
15
11
12
9
14
8
14
23
21
12
12
11
13
11
11
12
12
                                                                                               
 
 (S)winton
49454
13
25
15
11
11
14
12
12
10
14
11
31
15
8
10
11
11
24
14
20
33
12
14
15
16
11
12
19
21
15
16
16
18
34
37
12
11
11
8
17
17
8
12
10
8
11
10
12
22
23
15
11
12
12
13
8
12
23
22
12
12
11
13
11
11
12
12
                                                                                               
 
 Somerled
Somerled
13
25
15
11
11
14
12
12
10
14
11
31
16
8
10
11
11
23
14
20
31
12
15
15
16
11
12
19
21
17
16
17
18
34
38
12
11
 
                                                                                               

 

Analysis: Kits 10441 and 21128 are our first testers to upgrade to the new 67-marker test and to see its benefits. Looking at the first twelve markers, you will note that most are black-markers, which tend to mutate less often than the red-markers. Similarly, you will note that the next 13 markers have more red-markers than the first twelve. Even more red-markers for the next 12-makers, ending with 37. The 38th to 67th markers are relatively new, but it is expected that these will be nearly all red-markers, so we would expect to see many more mutations.

When analyzing results, it may best to think of the first twelve markers (1-12) as the "tree"; the next 13-markers (13-25) as the "branch"; and the remaining markers (26-67) as the "twig." Therefore, the more markers tested, the better we can focus in on a timeframe for a shared common ancestor.

These two Gordon testers are related. They are off by 8-steps on 8-markers, but 5 are red, which tend to mutate quicker. I believe the new extended markers from 38 to 67 will all be red. On these new markers, there is an additional 8-steps difference on 6-markers. Total, we have a 16-step difference on 14-markers and three of the mutations are are black with the remainder red.

If we assume 25-years per generation, according to the chart below, there is a 57.34% probability that these two testers shared a common ancestor within the last 600 years (24-generations) implying that the Gordon surname has been in this Gordon branch for at least that long. As more tesers join the project, further matches will also help these two families to narrow in on a timeframe for their shared Gordon ancestor.

In comparing 37 markers, the probability that kits 21128 and 10441 shared a common ancestor within the last...
4 generations is

0.00%

8 generations is

.59%

12 generations is

5.16%

16 generations is

17.74%

20 generations is

36.98%

24 generations is

57.34%

Something quite surprising in comparing results for kits 21128 and 10441 and the only tester thus far in the Swinton project.  When compared with results of the Swinton tester, you will note that you are both haplotype R1a, indicative of a common paternal ancestor of Viking blood.  

When we look at the mutations, we see that kit 21128and the Swinton kit 40454 are off on 13-markers and a total of 17-steps.  All but one of the mutations occurs on red-markers, which tend to move more quickly. 

Now if we compare, results 10441 with the Swinton tester kit 40454, we see they are off by 14-markers and a total of 18-steps.  However, three of the mutations occur on black markers, which tend to mutate more slowly.  The other 11-markers with mutations are red.

I am unable to yet determine a generational timeframe for their common ancestor, since the 67-markers are so new; however, taking into consideration the generally slower moving black-markers, I would lean towards believing that kit 21128 is probably more closely related to the Swinton tester kit 40454 than to Gordon tester 10441.

Bringing this back to the conventional understanding of Gordon family history, we believe that Gordons and Swintons once shared a common ancestor.  Is it possible that the link is your Gordons?  At very least, these results tell me that we will have to pay particular attention to results from new testers, especially from the Swinton side.  Since there is only one Swinton tester at present, we will have to see if other Swintons continue to share the same Y-DNA sequence as kit 40454.

For more information on the Swinton family, please see their family homepage:

http://www.swintonfamilysociety.org/

 

 
  Haplogroup R1a 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12   13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25   26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36

37

  38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47